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« on: May 17, 2010, 09:23:10 PM »

I was sulking around after watching too many of Doug Walker's antics.

http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/articles/ff/20853-entertainment-value

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Throughout its existence, Pixar has never made a bad movie. Cars and A Bug's Life might have been a bit weak, but I wouldn't call them bad. But, it wasn't until WALL-E that they finally reached the level of masterpiece.

WALL-E tells the story of a robot who is left alone on Earth for hundreds of years. One day, a ship returns to Earth with a robot named EVE, who is searching for something. WALL-E falls in love with her, but she shuts down as she finds a plant, proof that Earth can once again handle life. He hitches a ride on the ship that returns for her, and finds himself on a ship where the rest of humanity lives.

WALL-E is quite possibly the most likable movie character ever. He's cute, and he cares deeply about his friends. WALL-E and EVE make one of the greatest romantic couples of the modern era.

Some of the scenes in this movie are phenomenal. The opening shots of the garbage skyline is breathtaking. 'Define Dancing' is a beautiful scene, made even better with a strong score going along with it. All of the robots have great, cute designs.

WALL-E is where Pixar really starts showing how powerful they can be emotionally. The ending of this movie is surprisingly dramatic, and it actually has you believing it will end badly. Luckily, they find a happy way to end it. Once again, it's WALL-E's lovable character that makes this ending so powerful.

The almost complete silence of the first half of the movie is one of the most impressive choices in modern films. It's unusual for a modern film to not have much dialogue, but WALL-E's lack of dialogue is what makes the opening so powerful. They pay so much attention to body language, that dialogue is completely unnecessary.

Even though it loses some of its charm in the second half, with the introduction of the human characters, it still manages to introduce a few good characters. The villain of the movie, AUTO, is one of Pixar's better villains. The captain is surprisingly likable, with his constant inquiries into what Earth life was like.

WALL-E is just all around likable. It is good at everything it does, and everything about it is well presented. It might have some noticeable flaws, but they just don't matter due to the presentation. Much like Eraserhead, WALL-E is a key example of the fact that story presentation is what matters, and not the story itself.

I was telling myself, "this has to be an old article.  But look at the date!"  He addresses the likability of the characters, the love, and he does not address the "ecological theme" much.  But flaws, what flaws?
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« Reply #1 on: May 17, 2010, 10:00:08 PM »

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Even though it loses some of its charm in the second half

It annoys me that this is being stated as fact now.  It seems like because a few critics didn't like the bright colors it's somehow become standard to say this just to be in-line with the majority opinion.  All I gotta say about the second half:

Define Dancing
EVE and the Viewscreen
Ending Credits + Down to Earth
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« Reply #2 on: May 18, 2010, 05:10:50 AM »

The article says "Written by Fool Fantastic", but it ends with "Written by Chris Ames". Never heard of either, and neither are the nostalgia critic... Whatever, as long as whoever wrote it liked it.

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Much like Eraserhead, WALL-E is a key example of the fact that story presentation is what matters, and not the story itself.

Apart from this sentence making no sense, I could have sworn I would never see those two movies next to one another. Good one! Cheesy
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« Reply #3 on: May 18, 2010, 05:51:44 PM »

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Even though it loses some of its charm in the second half

It annoys me that this is being stated as fact now.  It seems like because a few critics didn't like the bright colors it's somehow become standard to say this just to be in-line with the majority opinion.  All I gotta say about the second half:

Define Dancing
EVE and the Viewscreen
Ending Credits + Down to Earth

And really, there's even more than that...the garbage airlock scene, the rogue robots rallying behind WALL-E and EVE, WALL-E's heroic effort to keep the holo-detector open despite already being in bad shape, the Captain standing up (literally) to AUTO...

I will concede to the critics that maybe, MAYBE I could see where they're coming from regarding the 15-20 minutes (or however long it is) between WALL-E's arrival on the Axiom and the escape pod sequence.  If someone were to watch that segment of the movie by itself without having seen the rest of it already, they might not be convinced that the movie is masterpiece material.  However, that's FAR from the ENTIRE second half of the movie, and even so it's still a critical segment, as you get introduced to new characters, a whole different setting, and you're finally let in on what EVE's mission was.

All right, enough complaining about that.  I haven't heard of whoever wrote it either, but it's nice to see that some random person on TGWTG is praising WALL-E in a recent article.
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« Reply #4 on: May 18, 2010, 06:00:18 PM »

I was kinda hoping it was NC (or whatever his name is) when I saw it was TGWTG.  Oh well, I'm sure he has good enough taste to have enjoyed WALL-E. Tongue
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« Reply #5 on: May 20, 2010, 06:50:45 AM »

I was kinda hoping it was NC (or whatever his name is) when I saw it was TGWTG.  Oh well, I'm sure he has good enough taste to have enjoyed WALL-E. Tongue

He did... I think. He made a Bum review of it, which is kind of his way of saying he liked a movie.
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« Reply #6 on: May 22, 2010, 11:37:59 AM »

I was kinda hoping it was NC (or whatever his name is) when I saw it was TGWTG.  Oh well, I'm sure he has good enough taste to have enjoyed WALL-E. Tongue

He did... I think. He made a Bum review of it, which is kind of his way of saying he liked a movie.
But he did a Bum review of that Twilight movie too...

The fact that in the end of that Bum review about WALL-E, there was this text (that's in the end of the reviews, at least the ones I've seen) that said "seriously though, WALL-E was good" (or something like that, it's been forever since I watched it) would probably be a better way to confirm it...
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« Reply #7 on: May 22, 2010, 12:51:04 PM »

Yeah, he always gives his true opinion at the end of the review.  It's not always positive, but he did like WALL-E (and Up, for that matter).
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« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2010, 01:39:09 PM »

I was kinda hoping it was NC (or whatever his name is) when I saw it was TGWTG.  Oh well, I'm sure he has good enough taste to have enjoyed WALL-E. Tongue

He did... I think. He made a Bum review of it, which is kind of his way of saying he liked a movie.

Oh, I just found this in case you want to know.

http://www.xomba.com/wall_e_c_wall_e_do_wall_e_triumphs

He liked the characters and the storyline... but believed that it could have been more daring...

I'll go get the torches and pitchforks ready!  We are going to get you Doug!

To me, WALL-E has reached beyond the maximum of a perfect movie.
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« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2010, 02:42:14 PM »

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Faster than you can say “Fembot,” another robot lands on the planet called EVE. Her job is to roam Earth looking for any signs of life. While there, she blows up everything that mildly disturbs her, even taking a few shots at WALL-E sometimes.

I lol'd Tongue

Hm...I'm not sure what to say about his thought that WALL-E should have been more daring. I totally disagree that WALL-E was just a "cute animated film with some neat ideas", but I can see what he's saying on some level.

*shrug*But I 'unno. I do think it was a deep film if you really dig into it, and the trailers totally failed to show those quiet, intense moments of emotion that made WALL-E so memorable to me.

I was very, VERY pleased with his Up review, really speaks to why I love it so much: http://www.xomba.com/%E2%80%98up%E2%80%99_soars
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« Reply #10 on: July 17, 2010, 02:45:42 PM »

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Faster than you can say “Fembot,” another robot lands on the planet called EVE. Her job is to roam Earth looking for any signs of life. While there, she blows up everything that mildly disturbs her, even taking a few shots at WALL-E sometimes.

I lol'd Tongue

Hm...I'm not sure what to say about his thought that WALL-E should have been more daring. I totally disagree that WALL-E was just a "cute animated film with some neat ideas", but I can see what he's saying on some level.

*shrug*But I 'unno. I do think it was a deep film if you really dig into it.

I really cannot blame him considering how busy his job is.  He's the Nostalgia Critic, he remembers it cause you don't have to, and he has to sits through bad flicks (*Gasp!* The Room!  *Gasp!)*.  But he has had videos of great rational analysis.  Bottom line: I respect his opinion as much as I disagree.
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« Reply #11 on: July 17, 2010, 02:46:05 PM »

I think Nostalgia Critic is hilarious, but Doug's definitely got some odd opinions.  I'm surprised he thought it should be more daring considering whenever a movie takes any kind of social stance he's quick to rag on it for just that, and that's the only area I think WALL-E could've pushed the envelope in any greater way.
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« Reply #12 on: July 17, 2010, 02:59:22 PM »

I'm not sure what he finds not daring about a movie that has so little conventional dialogue in it.  And I guess he failed to get what Stanton was going for by choosing not to have the characters from the past be live-action.
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